An LHD and its task group without persistent air defence could certainly be wrecked, but with some embarked F-35Bs on rolling or Alert 15 CAP the baddies are likely to have their day ruined. If you have to fly over 1000 miles to get to the target, that’s millions of gallons of fuel burned and hours of flying time spent not delivering weapons. Australia faces many of the same dilemmas as Japan; it acquired amphibious warships to conduct amphibious warfare and its ancillary operations, such as humanitarian assistance and disaster relief. F-35 strike fighters for the Canberra-class? Increasing the distance from base to objective reduces the amount of air power (time over the target) and the weight of ordnance that a force of aircraft can deliver in a given time frame. And Alan, it is me the “Bar Fly” you refer to in your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs of your comments. The Sydney Daily Telegraph even ran full front-page headline saying ‘Where are the Yanks?’ Yet, when, later on they offered support it was headed by an LHD with six Harriers, right in the ET littoral. There is also the issue of defending a deployed ADF fleet. It is accompanied by a small fleet of escort frigates/destroyers. The unprecedented designation threatens to generate frictions with an important U.S. partner in Southeast Asia. “The RAAF identifies F-35As, F-35Bs and Super Hornets as options, though it is very unlikely to want the latter. Lockheed Martin to perform âunique sea trials' of F-35 for non-US customers. An F-35B takes off from the flight deck of USS America during the Lightning Carrier Proof of ⦠I’m no expert on air power terminology, but aiming for basic air denial over the airspace immediately above your own fleet looks to be rather a long way down the capability scale – it’s only just above ‘air incapability’. The differences in systems may generate an increased requirement for logistics, maintenance, and technical training as well as significant increases due to differences in operator training and role currency. There’s too much at stake. Have these sums been done? Yes, I am aware of the evolution of A2AD. They might have an election coming, and they might have an issue with a certain segment of their population that shares certain cultural values with the country you want to bomb. How significant will the addition of the F-35B to the Republic of Singapore Air Force's inventory be? Today’s anti-shipping warfare environment is immensely more lethal. Along the way, many myths and misconceptions have been laid to rest. HMAS Canberra and her sister HMAS Adelaide, at 27,000 tons each, are the biggest ships the Royal Australian Navy has ever owned. Vid via Turkish media, May 2018. ... HMAS Canberra ⦠I’d be interested to know how the ADF plans to use land based F-35As to provide air defence for the surface fleet. How many fixed wing aircraft can each Canberra-class carry? This is the “Swiss Army Knife” of fighter jets, it can take off and land when main runways are destroyed or denied, it can operate from forward austere locations that are not on the “map” as it were, far removed from main air bases (or the “main shopping strips” as I call them) which are already well known to an enemy. It’s further argued that it would be less risky to rely on missile defences to provide ‘air denial’ immediately around the fleet, relying on the new Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD). However, proponents of land based air power solutions sometimes simply deny that the problem exists. They might not want to be seen to be involved. The government has resisted investing in the F-35B, however. During his career, he was closely involved with the Sea Harrier, and also with joint RN/RAF Harrier operations. Indeed, in outlining the difficulties in modifying theÂ, About FLTLT Higgins referred to ‘a heated debate’ on the F-35B/LHD question. An F-35B takes off from the flight deck of USS America during the Lightning Carrier Proof of Concept Demonstration. Judging by the hangar size, and what the Spanish claim they can carry, around 20 in the hangar plus another 10 or so on deck for a total of about 30, though itâll be a tight squeeze. Previously mentioned facts are the transit time to/from, loiter time overhead, minimum numbers of fighters with the legs and weapons to be a credible deterrent/shoot down force, before the long range carrier busting missile is launched from a stand off position. Does the F-35B still have a fighting chance to make it onto Australiaâs Canberra-class warships?. Besides, wait until government finds out the cost to actually retrofit (and sustain) the ship to support F35 combat/strike opereration and that idea will be shoved under the carpet faster than anyone can say "shazzam". It can operate from sea on the Canberra Class LHDs and allied naval platforms, it can move with the changing demands of the battle space close to the front lines bringing “proximity” when required as David Baddams and Steven George have well discussed. Countries that you don’t even want HNS from may deny you overflight. The order should cover 28 aircraft. F35 2048x2048 texture vertics: 518 ... HMAS LHD L02 Canberra Adelaide class landing helicopter dock Australian Navy amphibious assault aircraft carrier warships military ship Royal RAN. With China and India fielding capable ship-based combat aircraft, the issue of how to defend the fleet against air attack must be considered. Any fool can see that we will need at least 84 aircraft/crews for the task, assuming the usual unserviceabilities and crew unavailability. But the RAAF has never shown eagerness for keeping the Super Hornet in service for longer than it must, and is unlikely to favor the option. HMAS Canberra during exercises. They might not want it bombed by you, because they disagree with you over something else. Surely, as F-35B equipped US LHAs and LHDs (and possibly the UK’s Queen Elizabeth-class carriers) become increasingly common visitors to the China/Pacific region, the ADF will have to look again at how it might develop an ability to more freely deploy its main striking force at long range. The new agricultural reforms are a necessity for Indian farmers; the Modi government, however, must do more to ally their fears. $129. Indeed, in light of the British decision to fly F-35Bs from its two large carriers, almost all of Australiaâs major defense partners will field carrier-borne F-35Bs. Naval air power in the Mediterranean: French Navy Rafales from the aircraft carrier FS Charles de Gaulle fly in formation above the flight deck of the aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower. Is this another factor that should be considered? Juan Carlos sister ship to our Canberra Class LHD, is currently deployed with 12 Harriers, they were designed to accommodate them. Theyâre actually much larger than the RANâs last carrier, HMAS Melbourne, and significantly bigger than the UKâs highly effective Invincible class. Turkey has ordered a JCi-Canberra, and will include F-35Bs in their order of 100 aircraft to enable a standard squadron of six in the ship. I have a high regard for their track record, especially when it comes to costing Defence projects. I suggest that Australia, by reason of basic geography, is a ‘maritime nation’. Back in 2014, the ASPI argued that: …the ADF would reasonably expect to be able to operate land-based aircraft from the country whose own defensive efforts Australia would be supporting, or with whom we could come under common attack…, it’s prudent to assume that the [RAAF] would have access to land bases … to make a contribution to a future coalition air campaign…. Regardless of that, retrofitting our Canberra-class ships for F-35B operations would be enormously complex and expensive, and I doubt whether the government and the ADF would be able to sustain the necessary amount of time, interest and money. In my view, the ADF’s intended area of operations, which is largely maritime in nature, will become a far less certain place in the years to come. Is Australia going to take another look at the F-35B? Specifically, will Australia reconsider the acquisition of the F-35B for its Canberra-class amphibious assault ships? It also reveals its weaknesses. Yes, I too would like to see us acquire the F-35B and embark on the Canberra Class LHD as it is a “no brainer”, however, the sales pitch to the ADF needs to be adjusted greatly as it is currently only being marketed as a high powered sports coupe for touring the ocean road, when it also has 4WD and can go “off road”, and then some! To clarify a point in the article, Garden Island is the home base of both Canberra class ships. In a nutshell, there are now very few issues with the F-35B that aren’t shared by the F-35A and which aren’t being solved. I was merely a junior officer in our RAAF, but here’s the thing. The systems will go towards ensuring the survivability of Canberraâs F-35 Joint Strike Fighter fleet, and work will be carried out primarily by BAE Systems. Australia has 72 F-35s on order with the US in a procurement deal worth $17 billion. This leads to my key conclusion. Perhaps the costs of putting the F-35B to sea should be re-examined. ” A parliamentary committee has called on the defense department to prepare a backup plan, increasing the possibility of the country ordering more Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornets. With the exception of the America they are less optimal for F-35B than the Canberras. Army CH-47Fs that are not optimised for embarked maritime ops, cannot fit into the hangar of the LHDs without stripping the rotor blades off, have no automatic blade folding capability, nor salt water corrosion prevention measures seen on comparable and dedicated USMC/Navy platforms. But an earlier administration, unwilling to countenance the chance of a capability gap, forced it into the risk-reduction move of introducing Rhinos as early replacements for F-111 strike bombers. It is, if your solution is simply to be seen to contribute. Pretty soon, the Royal Australian Navy will take possession of HMAS Canberra, a 27,000-ton-displacement, flat-deck amphibious assault ship. The difference in capacity barely even qualifies as negligible. But then, Australia has a fifth of the population of Japan and a quarter of the GDP. Although the article raises a number of issues that warrant further, in-depth consideration the section which discusses “Costs” fails to address the increased costs associated with the operation of a mixed fleet of F-35s. (The ADF’s own figures from their website http://www.defence.gov.au/Operations/Okra/atg.asp) show average F/A-18 sortie durations of around 7.6 hours). Alan, please do not think I’m being persnicketty or contrarian. As was the case with Japan, the Royal Australian Navy almost certainly can rely on the theoretical and practical work that the U.S. Marine Corps has ⦠I’m sure that RAAF pilot training constantly gets adjusted to meet changing requirements and to field new equipment. “…retrofitting our Canberra-class ships for F-35B operations would be enormously complex and expensive.” Various improbable figures have been put forward, many resting on an assertion that this would be a risky technical enterprise, with many unanswered questions. In my view, any debate over the utility of carrier-based aviation should look at the evidence offered by history. Inter-service rivalry plays a role here, as the Royal Australian Air Force has been noticeably cold about acquiring a capability that would result in a division of offensive air responsibilities. There are only two ships in the world currently fitted for F-35Bs, the America and Wasp. This isn’t a criticism of land-based air power, it’s a simple statement of physical fact. Based on the Spanish Juan Carlos I, the 27,000 ton Canberras can make 21 knots and sport a ski-jump flight deck. “More Super Hornets were presumably suggested as a way of sharing airframe usage with the current fleet, extending the life of the type. So please let’s not just pitch the F-35B “all at sea” as pitching land based operations can be easier to swallow in the short term, as it naturally takes time for Air Force culture to change, and we should all be very encouraged with Jenna Higgins’ thinking. Each carrier will carry approximately 12 F-35 Joint Strike Fighters and 4 helicopters on peacetime cruises, with the capability to surge to 36 F-35s in wartime. For reasons good and ill, military procurement decisions often have a transnational impact; civilians and soldiers feel the need to match their friends as well as their enemies, and big acquisitions can change the symbolic landscape that military organizations operate in. The pair will be the first ships since the 1980s capable of operating short takeoff/vertical landing (STOVL) fighters, but the Australian government said it has no plans to by the STOVL variant of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lighting II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF). Specifically, will Australia reconsider the acquisition of the F-35B for its Canberra ⦠Two is better than one, and one is better than none. Or how it might protect its surface forces against developing air threats. Australia was reporting its interest in the F-35B for the Royal Australian Navyâs (RANâs) two Canberra-class landing helicopter dock (LHD) amphibious assault ships as far back as 2014. They simply can’t deliver much ‘air power’ time over the target at that range, as nearly all of their flying hours are being spent getting there and getting back. “….the cost-effectiveness of aircraft carriers remains prohibitive for everyone other than the superpowers.” This isn’t an isolated example, and history demonstrates that HNS is very often not available where you really want it. HMAS Canberra. Our acquisition of the conventional F-35A raises the possibility of getting up to 28 F-35Bs to operate off the LHDs as part of phase 2C of the AIR 6000 project. They might offer HNS, but with strings, such as only for only for AAR sorties, not actual strike missions. Imagine what such a platform could do when linked up with modern ship mounted radars and sensors to build a truly integrated intelligence, air defence and strike system. Is Australia going to take another look at the F-35B? Australia is already buying the F-35A. Seven more Lockheed Martin fifth-generation Lightning II F-35A Joint Strike Fighters arrived at a Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) base this month, bringing the total number of ⦠Meanwhile, if combat or sea state circumstances prevent you from pulling into a convenient harbour to fold the blades much of the flight deck is taken up by the Chinooks’ footprint with non-folded blades, restricting other operations on deck. Is this a factor and should it be considered in this evaluation? 235. They will also be consuming the (fixed) service lives of the aircraft. I’ve been sceptical of the cost-effectiveness of aircraft carriers for medium-powers in the 21st century, but you’ve presented a good argument in favour. ), which set off a spirited discussion. As a result, I’ve been asked by The Central Blue team to provide a stand-alone piece to update my original article and touch on some of the main issues raised. What if the foe wants to shadow your fleet at or beyond your missile range? This is why the US and the French have committed carriers to the current campaign in Syria and Iraq, located in the Eastern Mediterranean around 50 to 100 miles off the coast of Syria. It’s worth noting that discussions about naval (or maritime) air power often seem to get ‘heated’, particularly when the word ‘carrier’ appears, or when it appears to compete with land based air power. The first of the assault ships was completed last year and commissioned into the Navy in November as HMAS Canberra. Let us assume our enemies possess the carrier-busting missile the Chinese are rumoured to have. On the contrary, I thought your follow-up to the article was excellent: measured, informed and most worthy. Or wants to attack the LHD because it’s already your capital ship, and the biggest (easiest) target? The answer might be to buy an additional squadron of the F-35B, he says, a jump-jet variant that can operate from amphibious ships such as HMAS Canberra and HMAS Adelaide. Perhaps the costs of putting the F-35B to sea should be re-examined. ANI - November 24, 2014. Let’s assume a CAP of 4 aircraft, with time on task of 2 hours. fbx . The Canberra-class LHD was designed to accommodate 12 F-35Bs. Indiaâs foreign trade policy must be aligned to its self-reliance goals. The gear around the flight deck doesn’t fall apart under jet blast. The F-35B has crucial mobility where the current fixed wing doctrine relies on fixed 2.5 kilometer stretches of runway that can be targeted and denied, and which are often very distant from tactical objectives, requiring the extended use of air-to-air refueling “chains” which can be very cumbersome and expensive and are a whole risk in themselves. lwo obj fbx. Or wants to attack a fleet asset other than the LHD? My aim, however, hasn’t changed – to stimulate informed and objective debate on how the Australian Defence Force (ADF) could best deploy its F-35 force capability. For a serving prime minister to request the F-35B be purchased for use on the LHDs and for a serving chief of the defence force (an ex-chief of air force, fighter combat instructor and ex-naval aviator) not to say (publicly at least) that the proposal has any merit, I think speaks volumes for the confounded mess we see today on LHDs. Flat-tops have been operationally deployed for decades, and none have been sunk since WorldWar II. If the ratio includes opportunity missions that were in the area in case required but not called on to strike, could that be considered to bias the ratio against land forces? The rest of refit is mostly one for screwdrivers, spanners and electricians. Actually, this is a hugely risky strategy. “The defense department told the panel, the Senate Foreign Affairs, Defense and Trade Committee, that Australia’s F-35A acquisition program had leeway to ensure that initial operational capability would be reached as planned in 2020. Of course, others may differ. Enjoying this article? Copyright 2016 Williams Foundation | All Rights Reserved, Putting F-35B on the Canberra Class LHDs: The Debate Continues –, http://www.defence.gov.au/Operations/Okra/atg.asp, USMC’s recent successful trial of their ‘Lightning Carrier’, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnHGlxfstfQ, Juan Carlos / Canberra Class LHD - Page 35 - DefenceTalk Forum - Military & Defense Forums, #ADFRAS2040 – Reflections on the Possibilities of Autonomous Systems –, #BookReview – Essence of Decision – Reviewed by David Hood, Call for Submissions: Robotics and Autonomous Systems 2040 –. Their flight decks are nearly as big as Wasp class LHDs decks, for which the F-35B was designed. by Gareth Jennings . Furthermore, our MRH-90s were selected by Army not to have automatic blade folding, have even worse salt water corrosion issues, have rotor start and stop restrictions in higher wind states, have troop/doorgunner egress issues and have other problems too numerous for this summary to itemise. HMAS Canberra is the lead ship of the two ship Canberra Class Amphibious Assault Ships otherwise known as a Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD). F-35B would offer a hugely capable air defence capability in addition to its strike role, but the idea has attracted some passionate opposition. HMA Ships Canberra and Adelaide are larger than Australiaâs last aircraft carrier, HMAS Melbourne (which was sold to China and turned into a floating casino), and both have the âski jumpâ necessary for operating STOVL aircraft. Korea 's government is banking on AI as part of the patronage state that Hun Sen built! 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