i just wanna say this people in particular to the Mabasa/Mabaso surname. Hi va ka Mongwe wa Rimbale wa Valoyi. Izithakazelo zakwa Khanyile, Khanyile Clan Names, Khanyile Clan Praises Sothole, S'tshopo,othi udl'inkomo kanti udl'impisi, Umashaya umuntu aphindele lapho aphuma khona, Odl'isinkwa esinothotho, Mahamba kancane Sogodi, Phondo olukhulu elavuma kwavuma amadoda, Shalashala elihle elithukuvuma ukulandula, Ntunjwa kaLanga, Mthiyane, Ndwandwe, Zikode, Mabhuqa, Ngwane, ULanga … Ninenadlimfe embili Kwaphumikhambi lalinye Mashudula ngokushudulenkundleni KwaMazingeni yababomvu Malinga! Mvoti kambali emila emafusini! Abathwal’uMlilo ngeNkumba. Thina sehlula amabhunu elezibhamu zawo” TIHOSI TA KA CAWUKE. I guess what u saying above is understandable but what u failed to seem to get is there is no division in between these surnames come from the same parent or family tree. Sivumane saMatsena. Mabaso Clan name praise: Ndabezitha! Tell friends: Top Top. Lengwe Nguni? Ntimeni. moffat. Izithakazelo zakwa Khumalo, Khumalo Clan Names, Khumalo Clan Praises Mntungwa, Mbulaz'omnyama, Nina bakaBhej' eseNgome, N... Search blog. Find career: Search. Oh, Mabasa and Hlengwe are not Shangaan they are Tsonga. Next. Add Surname. va rimutsu ro famba hi ntlavha ri tsika managa exivukweni. MABASO IS A NTUNGWA, A NDABEZITHA, AND AN ELDER BROTHER TO KHUMALO, DERIVED FROM THE SAME NTUNGWA NGUNI'S AS THE ZULU SURNAME. sorry, can the author explain the difference between the other Nguni Mabasa or Mabaso. THEY ARE THE NTUNGWA NGUNI'S. AS YOU CAN FIND IT HERE TOO, THESE PEOPLE HAVE A MENTION OF MAGODA, MZILA, ETC. Xikoveleeeeeeee!! were known simoply as KHUMALO under king Matshobane and later on Mzilikazi who later defected against UShaka Zulu who then sent the Ufasimba regiment that got defeated by Mzilikazi owing to their hilltop dwellings whereby they rolled the stones down over the Zulu regiment. some ended up in Swaziland but arent originally AmaNgwane/EmaSwati, but just got integrated INTO `wakahina.co.za`.the clan. Mntungwa, Mbulaz'omnyama, Nina bakaBhej' eseNgome, Nin' enadl'umuntu nimyenga ngendaba, Nin' enadl' izimf'ezimbili ikhambi laphuma lilinye, Lobengula kaMzilikazi, Mzilikazi kaMashobana, Shobana noGasa kaZikode, Zikode kaMkhatshwa, Okhatshwe ngezind' izinyawo nangezimfushanyana, UMkhatshwa wawoZimangele, UNyama yentini yawoZimangele Mabaso … Shawuke! MABASA and MABASO ARE THE SAME SURNAMES, even though they may be praised differently. Mabasa versus Mabaso? Izithakazelo zakwa Jeza | Jeza Clan Praises. Clan Praises for Mawila, Izithakazelo, Direto, Tshirendo, Iinanazelo, Tinanatelo, Iziduko, Xipato, Mawila's history, Mawila's heritage, Mawila's clan information Mabasa and Mabaso(Mlilo) are Hlengwe/Hlenga and are not related to Mabaso(Mntungwa) and khumalo.Mlilos are one with chauke one of the standing and largest Tsonga group.our forefather is Shinyori the father of Bhangwane/Bhungane who sired Matsena and Madziva-ndlela.Matsena is ndabezitha(royal) original Chauke/Mlilo as he gave birth to Vizuwana(hlanguza) and Mangule(mabasa/mabaso).Madziva-ndlela gave birth to Shimundani ,Shigombe.others are Mashisa,Singwazi, Xikovele,Qhashi,Makhahlele etc. Quick Links. In order to know the difference you must understand the identities properly not only those of Nguni (especiallyZulu). MNTUNGWA Mbulaze Phuma langa sikothe MABASA owabasa entabeni Kwadliwa ilanga lishona I Xinyori xa humba xo kangetela ribyeni.Xa kangetela ribyeni. The Hlengwe and Tsonga identities existed way long before Shaka/South Africa and Soshangaan. Clan Praise(s) By: Famanda Thomas Chauke. Add Surname. wena uzalwa ngubani kabani kabani kabani kabani laphaya kwaHlatshwayo? Fanele Aphiwe Mabasa is on Facebook. the AMABASO are originally Southern AmaKhumalo's while theor other cousins in the Northern part (i think around Maritzburg?) Mvoti kambali emila emafusini! same with MANGANYI being BakaMagudu thats the place they arrived at or were relative to at that time.as for the guy who said there is a difference between MABASA and MABASO; my friend, there is not its the same thing they just lived in different areas, even now all the SHANGAAN people live in different areas in Giyane, Tzaneen (LIMPOPO), BUSHbuchridge, Mkhuhlu (Mpumalamga) but are originally from one place. It is interesting that the Mabasa are the decendents of the Ntuli's. Search. Newyear ka Ntuli, a very proud Nguni.TO 'A VERY PROUD Nguni': you are right my brother thats the reason why you cant find anf MABASA/MABASO outside the Shangaan/Zulu/NGUNI cluster. Language The Tsonga people speak Xitsonga a Bantu branch of Niger-Congo language family.The name 'Tsonga' is used as a cover term for Tsonga, Tswa, and Ronga. as to why people, the Shangaan Mabasa no longer know these things it's due to the loss of the Nguni language and the culture when they were sucked INTO `wakahina.co.za`.new communities..and also for security reasons they had to adjust the surnames and praise or praise according to the new experiences they encountered after the migrations. Historically, surnames evolved as a way to sort people into groups - by occupation, place of origin, clan affiliation, patronage, parentage, adoption, and even physical characteristics (like red hair). Vhangona clans were the first clans to settle in present day Venda and parts of southern Zimbabwe. young people must learn these relations among the Nguni's, it just brings us closer. Understand that the Hlengwe group is older than the Zulu nation - The Mabasa(o) arrived Kwazulu a long time ago before the formation of Zulu. Izithakazelo zakwa Qumbisa, Qumbisa Clan Praises Qumbisa, Jiyeza ! Nyarhi..... Share By: Ntuthuko Zwane. 2018 | Pastor Rudolf Mabasa Prophetic Praise and Worship Pastor Rudolf Mabasa | 03-10-2018 Total duration: 2 h 04 min. Email This BlogThis! Liphonde elimnyama Boqe Daka! A list of Xitsonga surnames. so the above writers may or may not be correct. Munyanyi Ku Phinda Boqe Daka! It is an analysis of the historical movements and cultural significance of the Vatsonga people of Southern Africa. BlakAkhive (Documenting (and spreading) our lost & hidden history) Izithakazelo zakwa Manana. just brothers and sisters who expanded outside one family. Hi mina Famanda, Famanda wa Khazamula, Khazamula wa Mkhacani, Mkhacani wa Manzi, Manzi wa Dlhamani, Masivamela, wo kanela timhaka ta huvo a sivamile, wa matsena wa bangwani, wa xinyori xa humba xo kangetela xibyeni, xa ntsandza chavani xi chava mahika wa mumu wa tolo, wa vukolokoco maribyeni, hlazani mahula homu, madyaswambisi! "Madzanga, xipha wa xikovele. Mtotobi kaNkumba. Jeza, Mabasa Mtumaseli Mabele made Wena owancelisa ingane ngaphesheya komfula, Wena waseSiphudini. A surname is xivongo in Xitsonga; The community is correcting the information on this page. If u check the Khumalo they have Mahlangu whose totem is a "gazelle" inhlangu", resulting in Hlanguza that u referring to above. ask yourself why so many Shangaan surnames resemble that of the Nguni (i wont say specifically ZULU coz all the clans in Natal were integrated INTO `wakahina.co.za`.the then smaller ZULU clan but not originally Zulu's. ndzi ncila ava ololi loko wo olola wu ta tshoveka wu oloriwa hi mbita ya nyama, ndzi mudyi wa swipame, mudyi wa mihandzu, ndzi khandziya nsinya ndzi chika hi marhavi, ahee khalanga ahee murodzwi ahee ntukulu … THE MABASA'S WHO MIGRATED TO THE NORTHERN KWAZULU-NATAL FOUND THEMSELVES IN THE BAQULUSI REGION. Hi, Umlando wakwaHlatshwayo asikawutholi… Imibuzo (Questions) Umlando wakwaHlatshwayo uhamba kanjani ngokwazi kwakho? Cause these come in as our clan praises also. Thabisa! Izithakazelo zakwa Mabaso, Mabaso Clan Names, Mabaso Clan Praises Mntungwa, Mbulaz'omnyama, Nina bakaBhej' eseNgome, Nin' enadl'umuntu nimyenga ngendaba, Nin' enadl' izimf'ezimbili ikhambi laphuma lilinye, Lobengula kaMzilikazi, Mzilikazi kaMashobana, Shobana noGasa kaZikode, Zikode kaMkhatshwa, Okhatshwe ngezind' izinyawo nangezimfushanyana, UMkhatshwa wawoZimangele, … ndzi mthondolovhana wa gwamba,wa madanci,wa nengwani,wa magulasavi,wa makhuva, wa nkami, wa phangweni, wa ghulukhulu, wa changamire. Hi, to me is just the same. October 9, 2015 at 7:32 pm Reply. Xigombeeeeeeeeee.Hi Vadyi va Humba(Snail). Click here to find out if you have won a prize. … Mvoti kambali emila emafusini! HLANGUZA IS ACTUALLY THE CONNECTION OF ALL THE MABASA'S. THAT IS WHERE A DIVISION HAPPENS. thats due to different directions these people took.those who think there is a difference i think its the same thing..the surname is written the same except the last vowel 'a' and 'o'. New Age African Tsonga Lifestyle. Mabasa versus Mabaso? I thought it say Mabasa chauke zandlovu... Guys is there any difference between Mlilo, Mabaso, Mabasa, Gasa, Chauke. Hosi Ya Kuvonakala . Nina bakwaMathanggakahlangani Ahlangana nxa ebonumyeni Mdladla kubekwa Gubane! mteshane clan. Ntobeh Mathebula. Powered by WordPress & Theme by Anders Norén. Is there anyone knowing about the surname Xhakaza pls let me … Zulu! Add your own clan name info. Bheje. Mzimkhulu. Amakhasi. For a full list of Izithakazelo zakwaZulu, please click here on Zulu Clan Names List & Zulu Surnames. RECENTLY I FOLLOWED UPON PEOPLE OF THE SURNAME HLANGUZA. Ncane clan names. The Sibiya do have a praise line that says “iNkomo esengelw’ emaweni (maoeni), yasengelwa esibayeni, akusiyona eyakhona.” WHEN IT COMES TO NGUNI THEN SEPARATES THE LENGWA'S FROM THE NTUNGWA'S. The Hlengwe and Tsonga identities existed way long before Shaka/South Africa and Soshangaan. Many of the modern surnames in the dictionary can be traced back to Britain and Ireland. Thabisa! Sesha izithakazelo. but people believe what they are told by their parents but i think sometimes even parents fail to really explain in full as to what happened for this to have been praiesed in a different way. those in Mpumalanga are from the other section of the Nxumalo leadership of MAWEWE and those in Limpopo GIYANE are Mzila's (these are NGHUNGHUNYANE'S twin sons who quarelled during the civil wars in Mozambique GAZA Kingdom as Mawewe/Mzila?? Newer Post Older Post Home. That is what we have grown up our grandparents and parents telling us and we will also tell it to our children that we, the Mabasa's are not the Mabaso's. There were other greats who co-existed before and after him from other ethnic groups. 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